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JohnW
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Time to upgrade ?

Post by JohnW » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:37 pm

It been more than two years alrady, since I upgraded, and I may do so again soon. But...In that time, I had read next to nothing on CPUs and motherboards and their associated chipsets. I use AMD now, and I sort of lean that way, due to thier lower prices. I do NOT need to spend huge bucks for the newest and bestest CPU. Sub $200 is fine for me.

If anyone has some pointers or recomendations, feel free to send them my way.
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Knightrousoxide

Post by Knightrousoxide » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:16 pm

What is the specs on your current system John? Not a Socket A I hope :?

Currently in the CPU arms race, Intel is the king... AMD, still quiet powerful, have lost the title with their aging uArch against Intels brand new one (sorta, heavily based on the P3-M).

If your wanting to build something cheap, but still has plenty of power, a system like below would be good enough to give you another 2 years work without being to expensive:

AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail=$153.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103586)
EVGA 131-K8-NF44-AX Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail =$64.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813188007)
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail =$89.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820145440)
GIGABYTE GV-NX79T256DP-RH-ED GeForce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail =$250.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125038)

Now the rest of the parts you can salvage from your current system, like HHD's, DVD Burners, Case, PSU etc etc. But with those 4 main components for less then $560 gives your a lot of performance, even if it isn't the latest cutting edge stuff.


***I only used newegg.com because it's the only place I know that has all the prices in USD and I have easy access to :D***

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Post by JohnW » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:42 pm

Currently...

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ ( 2.0 Ghz )
ASUS A7V600 Motherboard
1Gig DDR400 ( Kingston Value Ram )
A loaned Gforce 5959 Ultra 256mb

Newegg is fine. That's mostly where I get my stuff too.

But...I think before I drop anyting new, as far as video card in the box, I may need to up my power supply to handle the extra watts the cards pull. I have a 400W Antec, right now. I hear new card can really pull some watts on the 12volt leg.
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Post by JohnW » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:25 pm

For arguments sake...why the Opteron ( server ) CPU rather than say...The Athlon 64 X2 3800 ? It costs less, and the specs seem equal.

Well except that the Opteron has 1mb L2 cache for each processor. But the HyperThreading is 1Ghz vs 2Ghz for the X2 chips.

Hmmm.
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Post by JohnW » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:45 pm

After some reading and web browsing... What about this bug O' stuff ?

ASUS M2V ( VIA K8T890 Chipset )... $75
or
ASUS M2N ( nForce 570 Ultra Chipset )... $93

( Is the nForce notably better ? )

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor... 135.00
( This uses the AM2 socket which is newer than the 939 version )

Evermax Noisetaker 495Watt P/S ...$90 ( If my Antec "TruePower 400w was up to the task, I'd stick with it and save 90 bucks ! )


DDR2 Memory...667Mhz ...$112 ( Kingston Value Ram )
or
DDR2 Memory ...800mhz...$135 ( Kingston HyperX Ram )

That comes to $412 - $453

And then...a video card...sheesh. Probably another $130-$150
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Post by Knightrousoxide » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:04 pm

Sorry for the late reply, just been busy... :?


I chose the Opteron because its server grade (Top bin of the production runs) and runs at a lower voltage. They overclock like crazy.

Don't EVER buy anything with a VIA chip in it, unless you want to die a long an painful death.. :wink: Nvidia product top quality chipsets, and are worth that extra bit for overclocking and system features.

S939 I believe has more potential then AM2, but it was stiffled by the new socket and closing of production lines. AM2 has a lot of issues with multipliers, latency and pricing... S939 was just so simple, and rocked.. :)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor... 135.00
ASUS M2N ( nForce 570 Ultra Chipset )... $93
DDR2 Memory ...800mhz...$135 (Kingston HyperX Ram)
Leadtek PX7600 GT Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card =$140

That looks good to me. Should shredd your old system :D

Knightrousoxide

Post by Knightrousoxide » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:23 pm

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) Windsor 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
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$135

ASUS M2N-E Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
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$93

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ ... 020-02.jpg(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
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$104 (This ram runs at 1.8v, which is good because some of the ram sticks require 2.2v and some motherboards won't support that)

Leadtek PX7600 GT Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
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$140

Total of $472... Not too shabby :wink:

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